{"id":695,"date":"2014-12-02T18:52:08","date_gmt":"2014-12-02T23:52:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/my.dev.vanderbilt.edu\/williamfranke\/?page_id=695"},"modified":"2022-01-05T03:15:37","modified_gmt":"2022-01-05T08:15:37","slug":"creative-responses-to-my-work","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/my.dev.vanderbilt.edu\/williamfranke\/creative-responses-to-my-work\/","title":{"rendered":"Creative Responses to Franke&#8217;s Work"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/email.vanderbilt.edu\/owa\/14.3.195.1\/themes\/resources\/clear1x1.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/email.vanderbilt.edu\/owa\/14.3.195.1\/themes\/resources\/clear1x1.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><em>A propos<\/em> <strong>Secular Scriptures<\/strong><\/h2>\n<address>cianma@comcast.net<\/address>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>From Mark Cianciola<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: medium\">Mything The Point <\/span><\/div>\n<div>A Play by W. F. Godot<em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em>Act I<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div>N. Frye: Gentlemen, what are we to make of Franke&#8217;s Preface?<\/div>\n<div>H. Bloom: Dr. Franke has pulled off a <em>coup de critique.<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div>F. Kermode: He&#8217;s made himself impregnable.<\/div>\n<div>F. R. Leavis: He wants to have his truffles and eat them too.<\/div>\n<div>J. Derrida: Clever bastard.\u00a0 If he were here, I&#8217;d take him apart.<\/div>\n<div>Dr. S. Johnson: How shall we put it?\u00a0 I&#8217;d say the essays that follow the Preface<\/div>\n<div>are a peculiar kind of poetic composition.<\/div>\n<div>E. Pound: I canto say I disagree with you.<\/div>\n<div>HB: Good point, Dr. Johnson.<\/div>\n<div>NF: They defy proofreading.\u00a0 Don&#8217;t you agree, Ezra?\u00a0 No one could proof one<\/div>\n<div>of your cantos.<\/div>\n<div>EP: Word for word, pound for pound, you&#8217;re correct and I canto disagree.\u00a0 The<\/div>\n<div>proof is in the pudding&#8212;<\/div>\n<div>HB:\u00a0 And we&#8217;re not sure what&#8217;s in Franke&#8217;s pudding.\u00a0 Indeed, we cannot critique the essays.<\/div>\n<div>Would we be critiquing poetry, interpreting it?\u00a0 In that case, we would be writing literary<\/div>\n<div>criticism.\u00a0 If we wrote a review, would it be of the essays as literary criticism or as poetry?<\/div>\n<div>FRL: Franke wants to have his cake and eat it too.<\/div>\n<div>JD:\u00a0 Clever SOB.\u00a0 If I were in his house, I&#8217;d deconstruct it.<\/div>\n<div>HB: <em>Coup de critique<\/em>.<\/div>\n<div>NF: Enough with the French, Harold.\u00a0 Are the essays speculative philosophy?<\/div>\n<div>FK: Franke may think they&#8217;re revelation since he thinks they&#8217;re poetry.<\/div>\n<div>FRL: What about his shtick about &#8220;secularized theological revelation&#8221;?<\/div>\n<div>Dr. J:\u00a0 Holy Shtick!\u00a0 It&#8217;s mundanely divine, divinely mundane. \u00a0 It&#8217;s simultaneously black<\/div>\n<div>and white, it&#8217;s A and not A.<\/div>\n<div>NF: The first sentence of the Preface is a mind boggling contradiction, oxymoron, and<\/div>\n<div>revolutionary provocation.\u00a0 Lock and load, gentlemen.<\/div>\n<div>EP: Yes, we must give Franke credit for that.\u00a0 Also in the Preface he creates great suspense.<\/div>\n<div>Will he be able to pull off his claims in the essays?\u00a0 If he does, he has walked the Grand<\/div>\n<div>Canyon blindfolded on a tightrope.<\/div>\n<div>HB:\u00a0 And if he doesn&#8217;t?<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>EP:\u00a0 We are in a state of suspense.\u00a0 Such a state will tease the curiosity of Agatha Christie.<\/p>\n<div>But, of course, there will be others who hope for a big flop.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>HB:\u00a0 Ezra, are you talking about me?<\/div>\n<div>EP:\u00a0 If the shoe fits&#8212;<\/div>\n<div>Dr. J: Hear ye, hear ye.\u00a0 Get a grip.\u00a0 It seems to me Franke is making too much out of the<\/div>\n<div>fact that theological revelation and poetic revelation both result from a higher consciousness.<\/div>\n<div>And that one secularizes the other and the other divinizes its antipode, if you get my<\/div>\n<div>meaning.<\/div>\n<div>NF: Also I think it&#8217;s pretty well known that language can be a symbol that mirrors a higher<\/div>\n<div>reality.<\/div>\n<div>JD: No one can disagree with the obvious.\u00a0 Underneath, it&#8217;s just an analogy between divine<\/div>\n<div>revelation and poetic revelation.\u00a0 &#8220;Functioning as revelation&#8221; is <em>not<\/em> revelation.<\/div>\n<div>FK: Longinus already covered this waterfront.\u00a0 And before him in spades so did Plato.<\/div>\n<div>EP: It may be that Franke is mad.<\/div>\n<div>FRL:\u00a0 Could be.\u00a0 Plato said, &#8220;The best things we have come from madness.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div>NF: We are all agreed then that Franke lies beyond our ken?<\/div>\n<div>ALL:\u00a0 <em>D&#8217;accord. <\/em>As Plato said, &#8220;The body prevents us from seeing the truth.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div>Northrop Frye: We all agree, then, that we may be mything Franke&#8217;s point.<\/div>\n<div><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em>Act II<\/em><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div>EP:\u00a0 Dante seems to be Franke&#8217;s pivotal figure.\u00a0 Cogito that, ergo Franke is influenced<em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div>by Ezra Pound.\u00a0 That is, by <em>moi<\/em>!<\/div>\n<div>Dr. J: But there is some confusion here.<\/div>\n<div>HB:\u00a0 Yes, in one place Franke says Dante is medieval.<\/div>\n<div>NF: In another he says Dante and Chaucer are modern.<\/div>\n<div>FK: What does he mean by &#8220;modern&#8221;?<\/div>\n<div>FRL: And in another that Dante is the progenitor of the modern.<\/div>\n<div>JD:\u00a0 You guys are splitting hairs.\u00a0 By the way, is there any reason for his using <em>self-reflection<\/em><\/div>\n<div>one place and <em>self-relectiveness <\/em>in another?\u00a0 Also <em>self-reflexivity<\/em>?<em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div>EP:\u00a0 If <em>postmodern<\/em> is correct, why does he use <em>pre-modern<\/em>?\u00a0 Being a modest modernist, I like<\/div>\n<div><em>premodern\/postmodern. <\/em><\/div>\n<div>HB: Although I&#8217;m rarely confused about anything, why do we have &#8220;divine Truth&#8221; then &#8220;truth<\/div>\n<div>of Scripture&#8221;?\u00a0\u00a0 What about <em>re-<\/em> words: <em>reexamines<\/em> but <em>re-actualizing<\/em>?<\/div>\n<div>Dr. J: Enough, gentlemen.\u00a0 Enough.\u00a0 You are piling on.\u00a0 This is not fair.<\/div>\n<div>NF: You&#8217;re right, SJ.<\/div>\n<div>Dr. J: Never forget that the soul which attempts to examine anything with the body is always<\/div>\n<div>deceived.\u00a0 Let us live in a state as close to death as possible.\u00a0 Only then, as Plato said, will<\/div>\n<div>we attain wisdom.\u00a0 Only then will we understand Franke.<\/div>\n<div><em> Fin<\/em><\/div>\n<div><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<h2><em>A propos<\/em> <strong>A Philosophy of the Unsayable<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/review\/R1CXI6NF7FNB8G\/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&amp;ASIN=026802894X&amp;channel=detail-glance&amp;nodeID=283155&amp;store=books\">I Knew Language Was A Lie<\/a><\/div>\n<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/pdp\/profile\/A3DH0BHICL5B92\/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp\">Peter Kline<\/a> on April 22, 2014<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Format: Paperback Verified Purchase<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>A poetic response to and interpretation of Franke&#8217;s wonderful book:<\/p>\n<p>I knew language was a lie<br \/>\nWhen I looked into your eyes<br \/>\nAnd saw that liquid glance<br \/>\nSo swift and subtle<br \/>\nAny word would overwhelm<br \/>\nHardening and freezing you<br \/>\nInto the clumsy slowness of speech<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s not, then,<br \/>\nUndergo the usual orgies of words<br \/>\nDeclarations, promises, threats<br \/>\nAll lies, them<br \/>\nFleeting pleasures of recognition<br \/>\nAlways falling, never taking flight<\/p>\n<p>What is love but the love of secrets?<br \/>\nWhat is fear but the fear of secrets?<\/p>\n<p>I knew language was a lie<br \/>\nWhen I looked into your eyes<br \/>\nAnd saw that liquid glance<br \/>\nBoiling into you what I can never have<br \/>\nPatience is swifter than desire that<br \/>\nRaces for words, arriving already at<br \/>\nThe secret that will never speak<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=eI0mDwAAQBAJ&amp;pg=PA147&amp;lpg=PA147&amp;dq=apophatic+paths&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=8V_OkDUbhC&amp;sig=r4h69oqze-oRXc7gEAuC1ihJEFw&amp;hl=de&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjJ25nh2oTZAhVnwYMKHW0MCW4Q6AEIbDAJ#v=onepage&amp;q=apophatic%20paths&amp;f=false\">Google Books sample of Syndicate Forum on <em>A Philosophy of the Unsayable<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h2><em>A propos <\/em>On What Cannot Be Said<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/apophatictrip.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/philosophy-of-unsayable.html\">Apophatic Trip<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><em>A propos<\/em>\u00a0Franke&#8217;s Apophatic Project<\/h2>\n<aside class=\"main-sidebar-left\">\n<div class=\"main-sidebar-left__content\">\n<div class=\"cover-image test-cover\"><a class=\"test-cover-link\" href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/book\/10.1007\/978-3-030-28147-2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"test-cover-image\" src=\"https:\/\/media.springernature.com\/w306\/springer-static\/cover\/book\/978-3-030-28147-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<div class=\"main-body\">\n<article class=\"main-body__content\">\n<div class=\"FulltextWrapper\">\n<div class=\"ArticleHeader main-context\">\n<div id=\"enumeration\" class=\"enumeration\">\n<p class=\"test-LocationInConferenceProceeding\"><span class=\"BookTitle\"><a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/book\/10.1007\/978-3-030-28147-2\">On Silence<\/a><\/span><span class=\"page-numbers-info\">\u00a0pp 1-30<\/span><span class=\"u-inline-block u-ml-4\">|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/chapter\/10.1007%2F978-3-030-28147-2_1#citeas\">Cite as<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"MainTitleSection\">\n<h1 class=\"ChapterTitle\">Silence, the Impossible Object<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"authors u-clearfix authors--enhanced\">\n<ul class=\"u-interface u-inline-list authors__title\">\n<li><a class=\"selected\" href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/chapter\/10.1007%2F978-3-030-28147-2_1#authors\">Authors<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/chapter\/10.1007%2F978-3-030-28147-2_1#authorsandaffiliations\">Authors and affiliations<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id=\"authors\" class=\"authors__list\">\n<ul class=\"test-contributor-names\">\n<li class=\"u-mb-2 u-pt-4 u-pb-4\"><span class=\"authors__name\">Ed\u00a0Pluth<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"u-mb-2 u-pt-4 u-pb-4\"><span class=\"authors__name\">Cindy\u00a0Zeiher<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/chapter\/10.1007%2F978-3-030-28147-2_1\">In this chapter, we contrast a Lacanian approach to silence and language with another historically significant approach to the topics, studied and presented in detail by William Franke in a series of books, which we call apophatic discourse. We determine that the silence portrayed in this discourse is an imaginarized, impossible object, and we discuss how it manifests in some clinical cases Lacan discussed (Dora and the Papin sisters) as well as in his formulas for sexuation.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A propos Secular Scriptures cianma@comcast.net From Mark Cianciola &nbsp; Mything The Point A Play by W. F. Godot Act I N. Frye: Gentlemen, what are we to make of Franke&#8217;s Preface? H. Bloom: Dr. Franke has pulled off a coup de critique. F. Kermode: He&#8217;s made himself impregnable. F. R. 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